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Wednesday, August 30, 2006

At long last, Senator...

... have you NO sense of decency?

Hey, Ned... are you still in this race? Would it be asking too much for you to WAKE UP and start making some noise?

25 Comments:

Blogger SeedFreak said...

I think you should stick with Peanut Sundog, or whatever you called that new blotch of yours, as that way you can't go off in an emotional tear here everytime someone disagrees with your point of view.

AFIC, you're just a whining wannabe. You can't hack disagreement anywhere.

12:10 PM

 
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Why WHY are you here?

Why, WHY do you come back?

If it wasn't for disagreement with your posts you'd likely have no replies to your blogs anyway.

Are you an attention troll? Is it that you need attention?

12:13 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Who the hell let my ex-wife in here?

1:03 PM

 
Blogger cfaller96 said...

seedfreak, are you a registered Democrat?

2:19 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Kiss me, Kate.

2:38 PM

 
Blogger cacambo said...

That's a great show...

In all seriousness, please comment on the arguments and the article rather than directly on the blogger. If the direction of the comments continues to be overly personal, I might have to pull a LamontBlog and start moderating and/or deleting comments. Sundog and I are in agreement on this point.

2:53 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Thanks, cacambo.

The reference was to the play rather than the show, but I'm sure the message got through.

2:56 PM

 
Blogger cfaller96 said...

When is this "genuinely nice" Joe Lieberman going to show up? I keep hearing how he's such a great guy, he's one of the nicest people on the hill, yada yada yada, but I just keep seeing a self-righteous, arrogant bastard who just can't believe that he has to justify being reelected. Where is the nice Joe?

Or is that yet another Washington DC myth?

3:20 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Heck, I'm still waiting to meet a Lieberman supporter besides previous-life-cacambo who doesn't come across as a spittle-spraying, red-eyed barbarian. I am assured that they exist.

3:24 PM

 
Blogger cacambo said...

Check out Ed Kilgore at NewDonkey, although I'm not actually sure he's pro-Lieberman. He has a very reasonable tone and makes eloquent arguments.

I'm not in the camp that thinks the DLC is inherently evil, so I don't disqualify him on those grounds, and I won't hang him for his association with Marshall Witmann because I just don't believe in guilt by association. In any case, he's at least a "not anti-Lieberman" person who takes on a reasonable tone.

DonkeyDigest is also a pretty level-headed pro-Lieberman site, although he does get a little fire-and-brimstone about Cynthia McKinney (I understand the sentiment, but not so much the tone).

5:52 PM

 
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Ahhh Matt, you didn't abandon the place after all.

You revealed yourself as a Deaniac so I'm not suprised you openly turned the cheek and went with Lamont, but I think you always were there anyway.

You have the controls to do what you want. Edit away. I'll stand firm on my point of view of SunDog. He rants against those who don't share his opinion. It's poor leadship.

6:29 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Think what you like of me, SeedFreak; I've had many, many more formidable opponents than you.

They. All. Fall.

But watch your mouth, or you'll have your ass handed to you again.

7:41 PM

 
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7:43 PM

 
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7:43 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Damn typos! Let me type slower this time...

Yes, I forgot about Ed. He's Not Insane, as the Firesign Theatre would say.

I hope we can get some of those types over here who know how to DEBATE... not the kind of mindless troll who brings a knife to a gunfight.

7:48 PM

 
Blogger cacambo said...

What I didn't mention is that I was a VERY early supporter of Dean - circa summer 2002 - who volunteered and went to several early meet-ups and then abandoned ship late in the summer of 2003 (when Dean-mania was at its peak), when it became clear that he was abandoning his previously moderate positions on trade and many other economic policies for political expediency.

I ultimately supported Wes Clark, though with a bit of trepidation due to his head-scratching ambivalence on Iraq just after he entered the race.

If I had to vote for one of the candidates on the ballot for the Dems in 2004, I would write in Al Gore. I didn't like any of them by the end of the campaign, and desperately wish Gore, Daschle, Biden, or Dodd had jumped into the race. For 2008, I am crossing my fingers that either Al Gore or Ed Rendell changes their mind and makes a run for it.

8:00 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

Cacambo, one of the things I respect about you is your deeper knowledge and obvious powers of reflection. I admit to being a little too far left at times, mainly because of sheer outrage at the antics of the right. How ironic it is that a loudmouth righty simply dismisses you as just another Deaniac, when they themselves never have a chance of altering my views.

One thing some unnamed righty-types never understand; proponents like you actually have an opportunity to moderate my views through intelligent discussion, whereas simple insult and raving only leave me with a desire to kick some rhetoical butt.

8:31 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

And by the way, and for the record, ALL my hopes and dreams for 2008 rest with Al Gore.

8:34 PM

 
Blogger Sundog said...

So, SeedFreak, ARE you a registered Democrat? You've been asked twice. Answer the question.

8:49 PM

 
Blogger SeedFreak said...

SD,

As I've said before I am a registered D and I am a centrist, and I am a 100% JL loyalist.

Now you watch you're ass because it will be handed to you everytime I see an opportunity. You want to threaten me? Go ahead. It proves my point. Right now you're again typing like you've got a vienna sausage between your front pockets. C'mon LilDoggie, nip my ankles, or do you just piddle on the floor when you get excited? Your lack of self-control is showing again. Maybe you need a DIStemper shot.

You gonna waffle some more on if or how or when you like to post here, or you're nor gonna post here, or your sick and tired of TPM or you're gonna have you're own blog--or what the hell next> Make up your mind. Sht or get off the pot but stop waffling and whining and stamping your feet.

11:13 AM

 
Blogger cfaller96 said...

seedfreak said:
As I've said before I am a registered D and I am a centrist, and I am a 100% JL loyalist.

So, seedfreak, what do you stand for, other than the reelection of Joe Lieberman? What issues do you care deeply about? I'm wondering what you think the Democratic party is doing to advance your causes.

(BTW, pining for somebody's reelection, no matter where that person sits on the ideological spectrum, is not a cause and is not indicative of any principles. See this guy if you want to see why)

12:49 PM

 
Blogger SeedFreak said...

I like honest people. When is Lamont going to cough up his tax returns. A little full disclosure goes a long way.

What's he hiding?

9:02 PM

 
Blogger cfaller96 said...

seedfreak, I'm still interested in (and still waiting to hear about) the issues you care about. What is the Democratic Party doing for you?

9:02 AM

 
Blogger SeedFreak said...

get about a hundred books and start reading, when you're up to 99 give me a note.

3:37 PM

 
Blogger cfaller96 said...

I call shenanigans. seedfreak, you're not really a Democrat, are you? You coyly evaded answering that question for awhile, and then after you claimed you really were a Democrat, you again declined (twice!) to discuss issues that are important to you, as a Democrat.

If you really had nothing to hide, you wouldn't have been so reluctant to say you were a registered Democrat. If you really had nothing to hide, you wouldn't have such a problem listing some issues near and dear to your heart.

Mine are (in order of importance) education funding, balanced budgets, and reducing government (especially defense) waste. Because I believe none of those issues will be properly addressed while spending a trillion dollars in Iraq, I believe practical withdrawal from Iraq must happen first.

See? That wasn't so hard. If you were a real Democrat, you wouldn't have had trouble doing this. You have every right to advance Republican issues, but I think you should be honest about it.

3:58 PM

 

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